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nhia hue lee on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:52:36 said:

I am hmong. i am concerned about gen. vang pao.I hope he gets out. SO he can come back to be the hmong people's leader.

Jaclyn Yang on Jul 06, 2007 at 19:36:57 said:

To you all the truth, I'm not a fan of GVP. I'm just in the middle. What I think is that he wants take over the Communist Lao b/c he wants to stop the killings of many Hmong. Also the unfairness for the people living in Laos. I'm a Hmong American girl and I just don't really know about this situation that well because my parents don't care if GVP is guilty or not. Anyway, he wasn't the person who help bring my parents to the U.S. Actually my BRAVE uncle did, he was a student in Laos. Reading all your comments and researching this makes me so surprise! Even people in India know about this. But why not the entire U.S.?! It MATTERS a lot to ME because some Hmong in Laos are losing their lives.

FRESNO_GAL on Jul 06, 2007 at 11:45:53 said:

I HAVE ALOT TO SAY..BUT I WILL KEEP IT SIMPLE..IF US HMONG DONT LOVE EACH OTHER..WHO WILL LOVE US??..JUST THINK ABOUT IT!!..LOOK WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO GENERAL VANG PAO..A FATHER..A LEADER..AND A HERO..LETS HELP EACH OTHER OUT BY SOLVING OURSELVES FIRST!!..GOD BLESS US HMONG..

somchai v on Jul 03, 2007 at 10:14:39 said:

Hey guys you said Hmong land, I don't see any land belong to hmong when I heard hmong land I am shame of myself.

hmoob leej tub zoo on Jun 26, 2007 at 18:26:44 said:

to all hmong let wakup and open your eyes to know about the world let's get together to be a Hmong nation and self determination from some dictator's country some country that always depend on international for living and stealing our nature and goods our peoples also got torture and genocide to our women and childrens in the jungle by lao PDR let focus on the internationl laws don't be a fool like [VP]
read and send me comment.


we must known howto play and lets be one hmong

Anoy Lee on Jun 26, 2007 at 10:30:20 said:

We hmong are terrorist? American terrorist too? why? Think about the pass. About the native american. They don't get lockup in jail. They don't even go to jail for life. They also slaves the black!

Vue on Jun 26, 2007 at 09:59:23 said:

All I have to say is, No wonder Chinese did not let the US to go to their Country. Once you are in the American hand that what happen. Now I know why Lao, Vietnamese, Chinese and cte,.. Governments kick the US government out off their Country...Hmong people is the only one that trust the US. I will be back later...

free on Jun 21, 2007 at 15:13:24 said:

we don't dream of going back we just want to help our peoples, ur just a dum head barcardo, i bet ur not even hmong ur mexica'no...LOL

jay hangie on Jun 21, 2007 at 15:07:12 said:

why said hmong people are terroist when hmong means free

Vahmnog Lee on Jun 20, 2007 at 09:13:21 said:

Im only a teenage boy and Im from Minneapolis MN. when i herd about this i was shocked that Vang Pao was going to go to jail but from what i herd i now that he is innocent. and why don't hmong people stand out for eachother eals? that really dissappoints me cuz we are family we are suppose to help eachother. HMOON HLUB HMOOB! If it wasn't for him none of us HMONG people would of never been here... he's like a grampa to me and all us hmong people got to look out for eachother...
HMOOB HLUB HMOOB!!

Paul on Jun 18, 2007 at 13:22:08 said:

Whatever your opinion is, I hope you all understand that the war in Laos has not ended between the American hmong allies and the current communist Lao Government. You all should understand that it was the US goverment that abandoned the hmong people in Laos, leaving hmong allies to defend and fight of a invasion of communism.
How many of you know that the original royal lao family was butchered when the communist came in? Who really violated the neutral act in the first place? - The communist countries of course.
How many of you know that Vang Pao was in the original Royal Lao Family's Army? It might be time for the many hmong citizens and Americans who don't know hmong history to go and do some research.
Everyone should know, the vietnam war ended- But the war continues in Laos. The U.S. may be at peace with Laos- but the US allies left behind are still fighting the vietnam war, in Laos it is called the Secret War.

Vang Kou on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:53:17 said:

It is very interested and aroused me after I read each one of your concerns and your thoughts about this tragic, which happens to our communities. I'm personally very much appreciated your thoughts and your concerns. I believed, we all have the same feeling about what happens to the General; at the other hands, we know that how much he cares and loves his people, not his people, but the Laos nation and all Laotian people. His visions and dreams, himself is a true hero like many good leaders, who wants to bring peace, prosperities, wisdom of freedom, and good of rightenouse to the nation, not himself. As you might know, all his life, he is always working hard for each one of us. In the earlier's 1980,I was studying in the University studied Math and science,and exposed to many great philosophers; especially, in European. I learned that the good persons were not last long because evil seem alwsys to over come good. Therefor, each time I met the leaders, i warned them that we have to take an extra careful of measurement. I learned that the French and the American did help us rescued from the danger; it will be false at all the time if there is always a helper. It is a lesson that we should learn and always keep in mind, never let it happens again, falls into the trap, who's being plot us by someone who we're trusted. Comments about Mr. Ambassador Hartwick's statement. He has nothing to lost like you and me; he just want to keep his job that is about all. As you might already learned from media sources during in the war, most of them enjoy their good food, and good ladies in the Hotel in the city, and have no idea about what consquence issues in the nation where they were, are even today.
Over all of my resolution, we should always stay united together as the good communities where we are now, remember our General's hard work, his cares, loves us, nothing that we can do, but pray the Lord will look after his need, and guide the way for the best of all, which that is good-fair for each one us. May the Lord's power brings justice to who is right, and help each one of us walk through this tragic time, in God that we trust.

xong xiong on Jun 17, 2007 at 12:12:17 said:

It doesnt matter if Gen. Vang Pao is behind bar. What matter most, Is do we care enough to do something about it?

A person could come and go. But a Ideal is alway there. If us as a group of people. Come together and under one Ideal then we could start walking the road to freedom. For exp.. if you give a man a group of stick and ask him to break it all. He will compelte the task only in a matter of time. But if you melted, tie it, and combind it into ONE. There is no way that just one man could break it.

What GVP is doing right now is setting the workspace, equiment, and reason to start fussing together as one.

Could you make/take the decsion that is less profitble to yourself but strenghted your belive?

Could you walk a path that at the end you might be the only one walking it?

Will you shoot for pride and glory when you know that no one will praise you?

If i was to keep going. You all might think i'm spaming. So as a less thought to this whole thing. Gen Vang Pao laid out the gas, So are you ready to light it?

Thao on Jun 16, 2007 at 17:27:54 said:

George Washington led his rebel against the Royal British Military back in the Revolutionary War and was considered a traitor, today \"insurgent\" would be the term. It took one man and many men who followed under his command to battle the strongest military in the world at the time attempting to free his country. He did it because he believed in it. George Washington is considered one of the greatest person alive, a hero and the father of America. General Vang Pao had the same belief. Arrested or not, the same effect will carry. His arrest will only make his voice reach out further.

pierre on Jun 16, 2007 at 15:21:54 said:

Dear Friends I'm back to clarify my statements on Pierre that at the beginning of the story I was not understanded the details why a numbers of Hmong were been arresting. But now I do understand so I would say every one should stop doing some thing that is against the law. We should obey the rules.

P.Vimongkhonh on Jun 15, 2007 at 15:54:34 said:

---> Hmong Rise on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:16:10 said:
It's crystal that the gen.has been a target since the end of war. At his age and a health conditions, poor gen. traitors is every where.. We finally agree on something.. Those as...... has no regard of humanity.Be aware, more sh.. will comes out...

Hmong Rise on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:16:10 said:

To All Hmong:

Read this one and give me your opinion:

Then-Ambassador to Laos- Douglas Hartwick said he had pressured the FBI several years ago to investigate Neo Hom's links that stretched from Laos to the United States. (in 2003)

Douglas Hartwick said:
"I was pleased to see them make a bust," he said. "I hope it's a dying last gasp that helps us put the Vietnam War further behind us."

===== to me GVP was clearly set up by these traitor and betray peole like Douglas Hartwick.. who totally so blind...===========

Hmong Offense on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:02:28 said:

.. I agreed, the American should focus and pent more time encounter the real TERROISM THREAT, and stop wasting time to case like General Vang Pao and wasted all tax payer money and time. They could use all this ATF agents send to Iraq and Afhganistant to encounter terrorism, these ATF are cowardly act on people like GVP, instead of truly Terroism in Iraq, Afhgan, Paskistan, and IRAN. When did the Hmong ever kill anyone… name us any people that the hmong ever kill..

anomym on Jun 15, 2007 at 10:03:38 said:

Dear hmong whoever reads this. It is sad to hear about general vang pao arrest. When I hear the reason why they did this, I was thinking about so many movies that show the people how to use the power on someone or the government by pointing a gun to them. Then it was clear to me, that Vang pao thought he could use this kind of power to make the lao government listen to us, the hmong living in laos. It sounds like when the president force Iraq, also saddam hussein to make freedom with his country. In all these years, we have seen so many movies that shows how to take control of something by pointing guns to them. But this is not only in movies, this is the real world. But in General Vang pao\'s case is he didn\'t commit it yet, he was spoken of it, but did\'t do it. So that means if he is guilty to sentence to jail because of a plot that was never committed, then we have to sentence all the movie makers that shows gunpoint and violence on TV to jails, too. Because they\'re showing us how to do it by making violent movies, to entertain people to have fun? So let it be and free the General and start making your country more securer with real terroristen.

hmong on Jun 14, 2007 at 14:52:37 said:

Should we put in jail all the peoples that have bad intensions even if they haven’t committed it? If it is so we should build more jails and hire more ATF or police men to investigate these peoples or to trap them. And what should we do with reel criminal like the Lao government now? Be friend with them?
Most of us know about the law system here, it’s not about what you have done it’s about who you are, it’s about how much money you got, look at all the big case like OJ, Michael Jackson …… they all came out free ( a little bit poorer ) but still free.
General Vang Pao is a good man, as far as I can remember he always talk about school, he always ask all the Hmong kids not to drink, not to smoke, not to use drug he always ask us to learn and become somebody good.
To all of you Hmongs kids that said bad things about him just remember without him you will never be where you are now, you all probably be dead by now or never exist!!!!!
This is the time that he needs us the most so please all of you stop talking about things that you don’t know!!!!!! And go support him; he is our leader, our father, our hope.
To all the rest, just to let you know that we are here and most of us will be here for a long time, some of us will never leave the United State of America because it’s now our country too. We have raised our hand to god that we will serve this country and be part of it until our dead come.
Just remember there is not a perfect man on earth, General Van Pao is not perfect, he is just a man like every body else he just have the bad luck to born and to lead the hmongs people.

Hmong Wo on Jun 14, 2007 at 06:51:39 said:

To Amy Par,

I think you are an American Citizen and still you do not understand the whole concept and definition of Freedom and Democracy. You also do not understand the whole ideology of communism. They will do whatever they can for any outsider like yourself to see that their people love them and justice are been served. So there are electricity and clean water. Why there are people who lives in the dark w/o electricity in the home, road, no clean water, water was infect and kids stomach are as big as a balloon, road has not improved since 1975. Do you know how much international $ went to Laos, and still the corrupt regime did nothing to improve living standard that other countries are doing. The rural areas has always been better, but did you travel to the country side, to the Hmong village, and if you do research on the Hmong, and other minority groups in Laos, they are the outcast in Laos. The Hmong lives like the African American in the 50’s and 60’s. .. Think outside of the box not inside the box. There is no democracy, and torture, that’s why the Hmong want their voice to be heard, not war..

Hmong Man on Jun 13, 2007 at 22:18:42 said:

I want to respond to Thomas Lor's statement on June 12 regarding Gen. Vang Pao.

We have a saying that: "good man will never step on someone who is already fallen to the ground." We also have a saying that: "one who has good tools never use them to destroy one's fireplace- stones." You probably won't understand. You'll regret for the rest of your life when you understand what I say here and when you realize that what you said is a mistake that you'll never be able to correct.

If you're a good and fair person, you would know to sort out the history. You don't sound like one because you listen to one person and then make such a biased judgement. Please keep in mind that there are always two sides in each story. It's very naive to judge someone based on incorrect information. Please don't hurt yourself by making such unfair statement against others because it will be a shame to your children, grand children, and great grand children if they see what you wrote here.

I strongly believe that the arrest of Gen. Vang Pao, other eight Hmongs, and an American is a political motivated case. The US has chose to be neutral, allied, or enemy with whichever country it likes or hates. The Neutrality Act has only been enforced when the US wants to end a relationship with whoever the US wants to wipe out of their way so that it does not have to deal with because wiping such individual out of its way would also wipe out its historical shame. The US just normalized trade relation with the LPDR lately, and it wants to show LPDR that it really a good friend to the LPDR by arresting the Gen. and his alleged associates. It sounds to me that the US wants to be the LPDR's puppy who can do the job that its owner (the LPDR)cannot.

This case is also an "entrapment" case, which is a shame to the US Justice Department. Setting up a trap and luring the victims to the trap is not a crime. I believe that every American, especially the prosecuting lawyers, knows it. If the ten arrestees were convicted and punished, the shameless undercover agent will never have a good-night sleep because his shameful act will haunt him nightly. The arrestees will show up in his dream every night until he does not want to go to sleep.

If you look at the US laws thoroughly and carefully, you would see that it is a "pick and choose" law. The US usually ignores the laws if someone it likes commits what it calls a "violation of its Neutrality Acts." On the other hand, it will turn into a mad dog and arrests someone it wants to wipe out of the game. This is a political motivating game, which the US wants to please the LPDR so that the LPDR forgets about the history. The question here is "why does the US, which self-claimed to be the world leader does so much just to please a small country like Laos. Oh! please don't forget about the Secret War. The US was a loser. A loser usually does everything to please the winner. That's why the US arrested the Gen. and his alleged associates.

I strongly believe that every society shares the same morality: that is one would never betray its allies. It's a shame that the US does not share such moral rule. Most society would condemn those who betray their allies. Would the international condemn the US for arresting its allied Hmong who support its policy to stop the expansion of communism into the Indochina Penninsula? Thousands of the young Americans' lives were saved by the leadership of Gen. Vang Pao and the Hmong brave-soldiers. Without the help of the Gen. and the Hmong, it could be that the prosecuting attorney who is now trying to convict the Gen. was one of the dead American soldiers in Vietnam. Shame on that prosecuting attorney for betraying someone who saved his life!

I want everyone (whites, blacks, asians, africans, europeans, and hispanics) to take a closer look at this case. If you close your eyes and be honest to yourself and forget about the arrestees who are Hmongs, you will see what I am talking here. It is an unfair case. It would never have come to this far if the US were loyal to its allies (the Gen. and the Hmong people).

I hope every of us would use our conscience wisely and fairly before we jump to a conclusion on this case. The law is just a written word, it can either be ignored or enforced. The law is good or bad is not the law itself; it is the human being who enforces the law. What one does will haunt or honor him or her based solely on the merit of the intent of such person. Many prosecutors live with the shame and sorrow fir the rest of their lives because they wrongfully charge and convict the innocents. I hope the prosecutors in this case would do something that will allow them to have good sleep every night when they reach their old ages.

What one does indicates who that person really is.

Hmong Man

Jebra Ram Muchahary on Jun 13, 2007 at 20:37:21 said:

Greetings! Nomoskar! Gwjwnthwng!

Hi Hmong Brothers and Sisters,

Glad to see so much of enriching sharing of information, comments and counter comments in this forum. It is really great to have so much of enthusiatic participations.

One thing I would like to suggest that at this critical point, Hmong People and organisations around the world should try to convene a joint meeting to UNITE. I know many different individuals/organisations/leaders will have different opinions and views. They should be allowed freely to express their opinions/views/recommendations/suggestions/comments and so on. Then some common objectives have to be worked out through consensus or majority vote keeping in mind their views are respected or reflected equally. I have found out that Hmong People are very much respectful to each other and they are full of patient to listen each others.They have high sense of belongingness and sense of solidarity. This will surely help Hmong People to resolve differences and UNITE for their cause.Once you are UNITED, I am hundred percent sure you will be able to achieve your goal. Remeber split or division is the greatest enemy in peoples' movement for Justice, Equality & self determination. I am saying this because we have had a bitter experienced of this unfortunate development in our people's movement for Bodoland in India. We have experienced a terrible factional clashes followed by split where more that 3000 young and old Bodo people got killed by ourselves in this 21 years old on going Bodo movement for Bodoland.

I am thankful to the members of "World Hmong Congress" who invited me to US in September 2005. I met so many good people. I learned about Hmong People and their culture. I found Hmong and Boro people are from the same ancestor. We have a lot of similarties. I saw some movie clippings produced by BBC on how the armies of the LAO PDR are carrying out a terrible systematic GENOCIDE against the innocent Hmong women and children. Young babies are snatched from mothers and thrown in the engulfing fire, young girls gang raped and mutilated brutally by piercing bamboo stick through their private parts . It is more than shocking. I could not but had to shed tears and came back home saddened with heavy mind occupied simply by only one constant question in mind IS THAT FAIR ? How can man become such a cruel to do such disgusting things?

After reaching home I wrote back to Hmong People expressing our solidarity in their fight for Human Rights.

In 2006, I met Rebecca Sommer from STP in UN in NY, who is working for Hmong Refugges in Thailand. I also met so many other human rights activists. I appreciate the tremendous effort put forwarded by Rebecca Sommer to highlight the plights of the Hmong refugees in Thailand by her fearless work. I have seen her documentary film " Hunted Like Animals" and I could not stop myself as I cried in one of the side event, where I saw Geheral Vang Pao. I saw him elderly and smartly dressed distinguishe Hmong leader. I appreciate that in his age he is still active, energetic and couragious. But it is unfortunate that he took a wrong policy to liberate his people. I also met some Hmong leders who wish to do something serious for the cause of the Hmong issue but lack of courage who are no better than MICKY MOUSE. They speak like anything but I found them useless wooden heads in the processes. I am soory if I have hurt some body by my words but this is a fact. They need practical effective skills and capacity to really do productive work to mitigate their sufferings in Laos. I know this is not every body's cup of tea to lead the people in a proper and justified way. It needs a lot of patient, sacrifice, sincere dedication and commitments. I know Hmong Issue can be solved only when Hmongs are united and a effective democratic peaceful
approaches are adopted for the solution. For this we must appeal for solidarity from world community as well.

I wish the present situation will be overcome soon and a new effective and meaningful mechanism be developed to re-ddress the Hmong Issue in Lao PDR.

I also would like to appeal the LAO PDR to respect the Human Rights of Hmong brothers and sisters in Laos.

Gwjwnthwng!

Jebra Ram Muchahary
Chief President, ICITP, India

The Apocolypse Guardian on Jun 13, 2007 at 12:18:11 said:

This is to Amy Par.

You should probably do a little more research before making an uninformed comment like, \"the only Hmong who are being hunted down and killed in modern Laos are those who are in the resistence movement\".

So, if I get you correctly, you\'re telling me that women, grandmothers, little children, are all part of the resistance movement???

To those uninformed, ignorant people of the world, like Amy Par, you should really check out the videos created by a REAL human rights activist, Rebecca Sommer, who truly cares about the plights of the Hmong in Southeast Asia. Her website is rebeccasommer.org. These videos saddens me to no end.

Genocide, rape, mass murder is still occurring today to the Hmong in the jungles of Laos. The one good thing that may come out of this is that finally, some light may be shed on these atrocities being done to the Hmong people by the communist government of Laos and Vietnam.

Hmong Rise on Jun 13, 2007 at 09:13:36 said:

To p.vimongkhonhh.

You said don't about the past, but the Red Laotain Communist are using the past when the Hmong was allied with the U.S to defend Laos from falling to PathetLao and Vietnam. with this they are killing the Hmong innocent women/children, (www.youtube.com) using wipeout policy to all the Hmong every opportunity they have. I didn't say all the laotians, i said all the red communist Laotian who kill your own Lao King family. Do you have a king now..? Why your King died and who killed them. Lao gov, are so corrupted on everything, money, property, business, forestry, etc. That's is not the good future of Laos. General Vang Pao only want equility, justice, freedom, and democracy for Laos {Laos}. You get the bid picture now....!

Yang Lue on Jun 12, 2007 at 22:29:17 said:

Dear Editor,

I would like to thank you for your good work to create and allow our people to share our thoughts in your esteemed online media.I really appreciate you.

Well, I would appreciate it very much if you could update about what is the latest situation with General Vang Pao and his men those who were arrested for alledged plot for overthrowing the Lao PDR in Laos by military coup.

Mean while I am glad that this incident has opened up an offortunity to share our views and thoughts on the Hmong issue as a whole. I am sure it will throw some light in the pig headed, lazy outdated controvertial Hmnog leaders like General Vang Pao who misguided us in our struggle for liberating our Hmong ChaoFa Nation and Hmong People's freedom movement. I also would like to appeal all the Hmong People to keep extending your continued support for us in JUNGLE. We have tough time but it does not mean we give up. We will die rather than surrendering ourselves to Lao PDR. Even I am killed I will not betray my motherland. Right now my mother is in trouble. She is bleeding. She needs us to nurture her and safeguard her in this hour of crucial crisis. I know my people will not give up, no matter what. I appeal Hmong People not to pay any attention to the rumours. I am fine here in the Jungle and keep fighting and will continue to do so till my last breath. Therefore, my fellow Hmongs, please dont be fool to be emotional. Keep cool and be couragious and keep doing your holly work of keeping us supporting from every corner of the world. We need your help to help to fight for our motherland who is in illegal occupation of laotian government. We are not against the Laotian people. Please misunderstand us. We are not enemy to the vietnam, either. What we are doing is the love of my motherland, service to my people. So, there is nothing to worry or scare, when some body wrong person is arrested. We are here to fight for liberating Hmong Nation, Hmong ChaoFa. It isour birth right to decide our own fate. We a free Hmnog, we are fighter by birth.We are like tigers and so dont try be like a cat. We love freedom , so we want to sacrifice our lives for our nation and our people. History will not betray us, this is our own people who betrayed us. So, dear Hmong people, please join hands with us to liberate our nation, our people from the tyrrant Lao PDR, other wise we will be responsible for the lost of our motherland.

Yang Lue,
Hmong ChaoFa

XiaThao on Jun 12, 2007 at 15:00:54 said:

Hmong can no longer depend to kiss some one -ss
In April 28, 1975 the LaoLeaders adopted a Race Genocidal policy called " Serd Leng Meo Dap, meaning war over and Hmong finish" in the U.S. Compound AIDS; on May 8, 1975 they Khao San-PathetLao Wrote " we must eradicate the Meo minority Completely". To finish the Hmong CHaoFa, on July 18, 1977 Kaysone Phouvihae went to Hanoi and signed a Special Frienship and requested 65,000 to wipeout the Hmong CHaofa Indigenous in Laos and take over Hmong ChaoFa territories. If we look at UNCERD 2005 66th Session, UN REcommended Laos to solve the problem, Laos denied to delay the UN recommendations. I would say that we have died for Americans in Iraq, for nothing. Laos is about 5 million, Hmong are about 10 Million around the world. We need to make history
to the Hmong brothers and sisters. To end the Hmong suffer today, we need to drink blood to stop blood.

We have cryed, dying and now there's no more tear left.

betray and traitor on Jun 12, 2007 at 11:55:42 said:

General Vang Pao is not dangerous to the society, he actually have the society (laos) from falling to communist vietnam, & communist Lao. GVP is a civil right leader who promote: peace, justice, equality, education, opportunity, he has a dream that one day... Hmong and Lao citizen will live in peace and equal.... God bless General Vang Pao. Keep up your good work. We love you.. GVP.

Thomas lor on Jun 12, 2007 at 08:52:11 said:

No doubt General Vang Pao was our leader but he was not a good leader. We were told by some of his closet associates like late Colonel Souya, who died in France recently that right from very beginning he was siphoning money in the names of fake soulders from CIA. He used to put a fake list of his comrates and siphoned money from CIA. Not only that he used to regulalrly collect some virgin beauties and used them for his pleasure. His sexual appetite was so monsterous that he used to change every night a new virgin girl from the villages assisted by his soldiers. Now coming to US, his character did not changed. He kept on fooling the Hmong American selling out designations in exchange of heavy payment.He had been selling positions created by himself for big money. That way he had been extorting money from all the Hmong communities in US and lived like a King. He deserved this fate at this age. As saying goes ill got ill spent. It is his time to pay back. I apprecite US government for booking him under the law of the country. Every wrong doers must have his punishment. General Vang Pao should not be an exception. Dont worry new generation will do away the injustices meted to Hmong People in Laos. General Vang Pao was actually never trying to lead a military coup in Laos, rather he was conspiring to collect more money in the name of military coup from the poor Hmongs in US.

Bless America , Bless Hmong people.

Khu Yang on Jun 12, 2007 at 07:44:35 said:

I have read the comments by Nancy/Ho Yang from Sothern China. It is very informative and I feel like going to join the Hmong in the jungle to fight the outregious government of LAO PDR. WE must condemn the Lao PDR for all these barbaric act against the Hmong People in Laos. Shame with Lao PDR for unhumane attrocities that they are stooped to do with innocent Hmong children and women. But one thing is clear to me that the Lao PDR will never be able to exterminate Hmong People by theri ugly design. When I saw this comment by Hong, the story of Hitlar the Nazi striked my head. Nazi tried to kill all the Jews. The story of terrible Holocaust to exterminate Jews was never successful.Today, Jews in Israel are the most advanced and hard working people. They are advancing quite fast. I am sure Hmong will also one day surely liberate their homeland from the iron hand of the coward and most stupid Lao PDR. But for this we must prepare ourselves. I think General Vang Pao was trying to do the right thing. What is the use of we Hmong staying is US as a second class citizen? If we love our motherland, we must fight to liberate it no matter what may be the consequent. I dont want a cowardice death but a hero's death for the sake of my people and for my land. Then only, history will repeat in Laos in favour of Hmongs. If America does not help us so what? We will get some other friends who will surely help us.

Khu Yang

Vangster Pride on Jun 11, 2007 at 20:41:16 said:

Hello Dean Tran,

Your name sounds Vietnamese, please correct me if I'm wrong. You say that most Asian communities have risen above racism. Tell me who you know that has been elected for presidential candidate, or even senator, house representative or governor?

I hear of many successful Asian people out there. Most of whom are self-employed and have lots of money to start up a business. Also most of them whom are VERY GREEDY. Why don't you go and ask these successful Asian people to supply the poor with tips and ideas on how to become rich? See what response you will get!

General Vang Pao has a lot of money. And he was willing to invest this money into doing something for his poor people, people who are unable to obtain an education because of their age, people who cannot afford to get the education.... and people who are still in the refugee camps in Thailand.

My father is not a violent man who opposes the Lao government. Yet when he went to Laos to visit three years ago, they threw him in jail threatening to kill him just because he is a "Vang" Hmong American. They held him ransom until they recieved a big chunk of money from myself and family members. So what were you saying about the Lao PDR government???

You must live in a pretty big Vietnamese community. Because the Hmong population is certainly not as big as the Chinese, Japanese, Korean, or Vietnamese. We don't have China Towns in which people of different race come around and we can have mafias scare them away.

The Hmong community is amongst one of the poorest Asian groups. Why don't you give me some tips on how to become rich like you and overcome racism. You know, I've even experienced racism coming from Chinese and Vietnamese people.

Before you tell people to stop complaining about racism, make sure you gather the facts first. Someday when I have a big mafia team behind me, I will then not complain about racism.

Let's support our Hmong general and bring him back home. Thanks.

Phillip Lotha on Jun 11, 2007 at 20:16:30 said:

Hello,

I am Phillip Lotha from Nagaland, India. Have you heard of Naga People in India?

I came to know about Hmong issue from my friend Mr. Jebra, a Boro Indigenous leader from Assam. He told me about the miserable plight of Hmong People in Laos.He invited me to read what is going on with Hmong people in laos and in the US. I felt so saddened with the whole ironical story of the Hmong People. One thing that srtiked me very badly is the killings of innocent children, gang wrape and humaliation suffered by the Hmong people in Laos. It is actually an insult to a race and hence it is furely racial descrimination perpetuated by the Lao PDR. My question is how come a legitimate government can kill so desparately to its own citizen? It is brutal and definitely a crime. Is there any justice in Laos? I wish to visit Laos and see myself with my own eyes. Will Lao government will give permit/visa for my visit?

I feel in order to improve the Hmong peoples situation some peace mission should be worked out with the government of Lao PDR and the Hmong leaders. I found you guys are busy accusing each other, condeming each others. But can some one initiate courageously to take up a PEACE MISSION there? I want to volunteer from India and to work with you guys if you cooperate with me.

Thank you for your kind attention,

Phillip
Nagaland, India

Vang on Jun 11, 2007 at 19:55:17 said:

For those who does not support General Vang Pao, how would you feel if your family members, friends, and relatives are being killed. Would it hurt you so deeply that you could bleed from your eyes or would you just laugh. As for me, it would hurt so bad that i might have the guts to turn myself into a nuclear bomb and explode so that all who is killing my people would die. Without no country and without no help, who would General Vang Pao be able to rescue his own people. Years after protesting to the America government to help the Hmong people in Laos, and what could the Americans do? NOTHING.... I guess they still want to see more HMong people to die in www.youtube.com. The only thing that General Vang Pao can do is what he is doing right now. I know it might be wrong and it might be right, ither way, what could he do? I know that I\'m just a kid who might not anything, but i do know that i\'m a Hmong and i do know that we Hmong people are still suffering in Laos. WHy do i know? I know this because I have seen many videos, heard many stories, and it hurts me knowing that i can not do anything to help... I\'m glad that General Vang Pao is taking a step and i know that there are many more steps to go...

KOU THAO on Jun 11, 2007 at 19:30:24 said:

SOME OF YOU ARE RIGHT AND SOME ARE WRONG FOR HATING VANG PAO. VANG PAO IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE WHOM WE ARE. "SOME OF YOU STUPID HMONG KIDS" THINK OF THE PAST IF IT WAS VANG PAO WE WILL NEVER BE SO EDUCATED AND HAVE THIS WONDERFUL LIFE. SEE BACK IN LAOS WE WEREN'T EVEN ALLOW TO COME DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAIN. IF WE DO WE GET KILL SO WHEN VANG PAO BECOME A GENERAL HE PUT ALL THAT HATRED AND RACISM IN LAOS IN TO A HALT. SO THE MAN IS LIKE A FATHER TO ALL OF US. HE IS A LEADER OF THE HMONG AND WE WILL RESPECT HIM. DO YOU KNOW HOW TOUGH IT'S TO BE A LEADER? SO SOME OF YOU SAYING WANT TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR FOREVER. WITHOUT VANG PAO 90 PERCENT OF THIS AMERICANS WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO SEE YOU IN THIS LAND. SO BETTER THINK OF ANOTHER WAYS FOR OUR PEOPLES. I AM ONLY 22 YEARS OLD. SO IF VANG PAO OR HMONG CHAO FA HAVE A ARMY I WOULD DEFINITE JOIN THEM TO BRING PEACE FOR OUR PEOPLES IN LAO SO THAT IT CAN BE CALL HMONG LAND. DO YOU WANT A COUNTRY OF YOUR OWN? THINK OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLES THEY ARE ONLY FREE 3 OR FOUR DECADES. THAT'S NOT VERY LONG. THINK OF THE IRAQ.

AMERICAN WILL NEVER CARE ABOUT YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR AND MY COLOR.

"AMERICAN ARE IN PEACE WITH LAOS BUT NOT HMONG AMERICAN" DO WE HAVE THE CHOICE OF DECIDING ABOUT LAOS?. SEE FOR YOURSELF AND EMAIL ME

p.vimongkhonhh on Jun 11, 2007 at 18:14:58 said:

Dear Free Hmong,
My father speaks very highly of the general for what he did icluding this current event,but I found somewhat disturbing when some one claim that Laos it not their country.Let's be realistic,do you call USA home? I'm sure discrimination is still around even here! as for me, I am Lao-American simply I was Lao first..If your stat's accurate 1 in 1000, I would have to say that pretty damm good compare to lao-loum population.I personally suffer a lost because of the commies regime,do I have to turn against Lao people in Laos? is that what we want our children to carry on? What general did was noble! I almost certain that he had a love for Laos and it's people including all the ethics.We can't change what happend in the past but we can improve the future and that's what I believe the general's trying to tell us....Peace and Prosperity to all.....

Dean Tran on Jun 11, 2007 at 16:17:46 said:

Vang Pao is a stubborn and violent man who insists on encouraging violence and terror years after the tragic war in Southeast Asia has finished. He would prefer for innocent people to die than to continue his life in the U.S. in peace.

I have been to Laos, and have seen ethnic Hmong and ethnic Lao mingling and working together in the marketplace. The Lao PDR government only targets the Hmong who continue to violently oppose the government.

There have definitely been instances of racism against Asians in the United States. However, most Asian communities have risen above this. The Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Indian and Other Asian communities in the United States have managed to overcome racism, attaining educational levels and income levels above that of American white people. They have done this through hard work, and a determination to OVERCOME rather than complain about racism.

I hope Vang Pao is convicted, and that the Hmong-American community will stop defending a terrorist.

tou yia yang on Jun 11, 2007 at 14:22:20 said:

There are more to our general Vang Pao trying to overthrown the Lao's government. What i believe is that the U.S. are not willing to admit that there are dying people in Lao's. Hmong people are being hunted down. The Hmong in Lao needs help, in order to get world's attention, someone have to do something, nobody is getting world's attention. I know that there is something behind all this. An intelligent men will not just do something stupid. We have to support our people no matter what. Without General Vang Pao, maybe we are stilling in Lao's being hunted.

Mister Vang on Jun 11, 2007 at 12:26:24 said:

Dear young Hmong brothers and sisters...

Many of you were born in the U.S. and many of you were brought here at a very young age, therefore, you call America your home. Some of you even say that America is paradise.

I was born in the U.S. in 1977 and have never been to Laos or even Thailand.

I attended grade school in Fresno, California. While in grade school, I was too ignorant to realize that my teachers were unfavorable of me because of my race. In my early teens, I started to get pushed around by white children, also experience name calls and racial slurs. I joined a gang by my mid-teens and often retaliated on people who gave me any signs of racism.

Today, I am 30 years old, and not a gang member any more. But the saddest thing about living in America, is the fact that we will never be Americans in the eye's of the white people. I have been discriminated against at every job that I have held since I turned 18. Every time something went wrong, the Hmong people were the first ones questioned. I got fired at my last job because there was hatred that was built up against me over a period of years because I was the only one who stood up when I felt Hmongs were being discriminated against. Of course, the work place did not call me up and tell me that I am fired because I stood up for my people, but this employer watched my actions day-in and day-out and tried to get me for any mistake that I made. When I went to the U.S. government to file discrimination, the government basically told me that I could not prove that I was discriminated against, therefore, they will not waste their time taking the case to trial. They did not even contact my witnesses.

So young brothers and sisters, please don't fool yourselves. Don't think that America is your country because someday, someone with a different skin color may walk up to you and tell you to go back to your own country. And they'll do it just for a good laugh.

I grew up disliking General Vang Pao because I was so upset that my father sent him so much money and no actions were being taken.

Today, I stand 100% behind General Vang Pao. I would have volunteered to be one of his soldiers should he had had the opportunity to go back to war.

America brought us to the United States to avoid our people getting slain by the Communists. But America ripped our hearts by not protecting us from discrimination. They felt that they had already done their jobs by bringing us here and whatever happens after that... is not their fault anymore.

For those of you who are too comfortable here in America, don't forget who you really are. If you don't beleive me that we are being discriminated against, go ask your fathers and uncles. They should be able to tell you how the real world is in the "American work-place."

Let's stand behind our General. If you can't help him physically, do it emotionally.

Free Hmong on Jun 11, 2007 at 06:43:02 said:

----> to phayphet vimongkhonh on Jun 09, 2007 at 11:57:23 said:

Well...that's right,you said Lao people does give Hmong justice, equality, and opportunity..? You are wrong, do you know why the people do not live in the city, because the Hmong were discriminated by the Laotion, calling names, murder Hmong in the city, and so very few, 1 out of 1,000 to be so lucky to have the opportunity. You call this justice and opportunity. I call this hatred, discriminate, genocide, outcast.

Free the Hmong people and their leaders.

Hong Yang, Southern China on Jun 11, 2007 at 02:47:50 said:

Dear Hmong brothers, sisters and international community friends,

I am Nancy Yang from southern China,

I am a student of History. I am doing research on Hmong People of Asia. I am terribly distureb by the present situation with my Hmong relatives in the Laos and the recent arrest of the General Veng Pao,

Thirty one years ago the Hmong people have been and continuing being the targeted holocaust of the Lao People Democratic because of their social, culture, religion, and economic differences. We and world have witness the most outrageous genocide and population displacement in history committed by the Lao PDR against the Hmong people.

It is a great concern for the members of the Hmong People around the world that we all must work together in bringing the attention to the international communities and protecting these people from the hand to the Lao PDR. Fred Caristo who worked closely with the Hmong ethic preservation stated that the Hmong people are, "in a war of both genocide and attrition. The Lao draft the Hmong into the Lao People's Army, put them in units where they know they're going to get killed. Then they take the lowest class of lowland Lao men and marry them off the Hmong women. The result? The Hmong race is bled into extinction". On his report, the Lao PDR officials have admitted to the genocide and "The war will end when the Hmong are gone."

With this racist regime, the Lao PDR government continues raging war against the Hmong people despite Laos is a state party to some of the core international human rights treaties. Lao has dishonored to the International. Instruments of the United Nations and has caused a great harm to the Lao governing constitution and the freedom of it’s' citizens. Many reports written by the Amnesty. International (just to name a few of the articles, Lao People's Democratic Republic Hiding in the Jungle - Hmong under threat stated that the the Lao PDR government is seriously violating the “International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), the convention on he elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW), and the Convention on the Right of the Child (CRC).” The September 2004 report, atrocities against Hmong children are war crime, “children aged between 13 to 16 years old were brutally mutilated, the girls apparently raped before being killed – by a group of approximately 30 -40 soldiers.”

Mr. Dave Dickinson on 12 March 1990 interviewed with Hmong chemical victims confirmed that Lao PDR has used some type of chemical weapon known “mycotoxin”. The recent interviews with community leaders in remote areas also confirmed that chemical weapon has been spread to their remote areas regularly. The lao PDR government has used chemical warfare against the Hmong ChaoFa people and has caused seriously bodily harms and death among many children, men and women in remote areas. Many of them had died and became blind. For those who survived their future are uncertain.

The 26 Hong children that deported back to Laos by the Thai government are not known and they were never to be found even Lao authorities claimed that they had located the children in recent months. Lao PDR had denied international media access during press conference. Lao PDR government has used state controlled media and bribed local children for the cover up after pressure from international communities and the Hmong people abroad.

Friends, the violation lists are endless. And one thing we know for sure that the Lao PDR is using, “The war will end when the Hmong are gone”. The rules of the land and heaven are nonsense to the Lao PDR, The International Instruments of the United Nation have been seriously violated and disrespectful by the Lao PDR, A legitimate government that does not comply to the International Instruments of the Unite Nation and its protocols is considered as a threat to its’ own people and it is in violation of the Declaration on the Preparation of Societies for Life in Peace.

Friends, we are expressing a deep concern for the rights of the Hmong Indigenous people in Northern Laos. These people have been hunted, murdered, abused, tortured; women and children are sexually assaulted by the Lao PDR soldiers continuously until these days,

Reports coming from the community leaders in their remote areas on the 13th of May, 2007 said that the Lao PDR soldiers had gone to their farm land and destroyed all of their crops by burning and slashing. The Lao PDR soldiers also set up landmines model number M66 and other unidentified landmine models everywhere in their farm lands and roads.

Friends, all human being are created equal and they should have the right to exist and self determination to promoting their cultural, social and economical development. We fully support the Hmong Indigenous Peoples rights and self-development and we are asking for your supports. This is the only way these people will be free once and for all.


Therefore, we support Hmong People’s right that is the right to freely determine their own political status, specifically, the right to self-determination, self-government. The Hmong Nation and People have long experienced many violations of human rights and fundamental freedom in a conflict situation. The Hmong Nation and People have long resisted in the taking over of their land, territories and natural resources by the Lao PDR. The Lao PDR with the use of foreign mercenaries, consistently launched attacks, commits war crimes and atrocities against the Hmong Nation and People. These barbarous acts are in direct violation of the Geneva Convention. The situation has become a humanitarian crisis and should also be a peace and security issue and should be addressed by the United Nations Security Council.

The Hmong - Lao conflict in Laos occurred for three decades in which many Hmong people died from attacks, from chemical toxins and forced starvation in which the Lao PDR denies of the conflict or of any persecution of the Hmong people. But yet refuses to allow international access into these conflict zones. It is the policy of the Lao PDR to completely exterminate the Hmong nation and people. We shall and must concentrate all our efforts to repel this evil doing and to call upon the international community to assist us to have the means to defend ourselves and to support our human rights and to live separately. It is the wish of the Hmong nation and people to have the rights to self- determination in self-government pursuant to Article 55 of the Charter of the United Nation as the only option to achieve freedom, justice, peace and security for the Hmong people and its succeeding generation.

I feel that unless the scattered Hmong People are united and raise voices against these terrible situation with our relatives in the Laos, we will be no more there. Our ancestors' remains & spirits will be left aside unattended, our motherland will be left unguarded. It will be a shame for all of us. The world will laught at us.

Let us die for Hmong Nation but not Hmong Nation Dies for us!

Hong Yang

Tad on Jun 10, 2007 at 23:47:01 said:

War Victim you are great.

i hate some very few Lao people in Australia who used to be stupid boss before 1975. they are still doing stupid things like Vang Pao doing(they are maybe same team). my parents told me that they always ask money from them to do something which my parents understood as war.
poor bosses who never stop dreaming of stupid dreams.

Tad on Jun 10, 2007 at 21:37:05 said:

share ideas with June 10, Jia Vang

Please stop dividing Laos. Stop saying Hmong. What do you want to be? Do you want to be Hmong or Lao Homng? If you want to be just Hmong, then i think you are really supporting some people like Binladen to invade Laos. What Vang Pao and his team is doing is not right, you know that. And also, what some terrerists (supported by Vang Pao and his team who are using money from Poor Lao in US, Aust, France to sacrifice his revenge) is not the right action, you know? If you dont know, it is maybe you dont know what these terrerists are doing in Laos. I pray that Buddha will open your eyes.
Reading what you've written, I believe that you are a strong Vang Pao Community. Please stop Vang Pao to stop telling Lao to '' Kill '' Lao. He told Lao to attack Lao on buses, in public place and even in small town. He told Lao to kill 35 innocent Lao students. This is what I , Lao and the world know about Vang Pao Team.
If you really remember and are aware of that Vang Pao helped US to bomb Houaphanh, Xiengkhuang, Paksong, Attapeu, Saravanh, Borrikhamxai and elsewhere to kill Lao people (i hope you remember this) just because he believe that US could give him power to control Laos.
I hate when you say you are a Lao but at the same time you support someone to kill innocent Lao people.

tad on Jun 10, 2007 at 20:44:37 said:

Dear Lao People.
Why Vang Pao is your hero? It is because he trying to invade Laos? It is because he collects your money to make a war? It is because he wants more Lao lives to die for his revenge? It is because he fills your head with stupid wrong information?
Wake up Lao. Get real. Vang Pao has never gaven you hope and dream and new lives. It has always been you and your close people.
End supporting him otherwise many more innocent Laos in Laos, US, France, Australia and elsewhere will lose their lives. Stop believing what he and his men told you to believe.
The fact that you

pierre on Jun 10, 2007 at 20:24:51 said:

Hi! brothers and sisters, here I am a Hmong man. I was feeling very mad about the last Monday action against PEB TXIV Vang Pao. But remember if you don't make thing happen no one will hear you and listen to you, thing never happened until you make some thing happen so now it is time to take real action or stand up and speak lounder. It was a number years for all the people in Laos waiting to get help. Laotian or Hmong, we all were Laos citizens at one time as well. So, when do we anything, we do all of it. Probably, the 30 years that has gone by were too short, how about another 100 years to 150 years from now to take action. Or until the country's revolution transforms.

lia vang on Jun 10, 2007 at 08:37:46 said:

Response to Amy Par comments on 6/8.

Thank you for your service to the multi-ethnic groups in Laos.

I suggest that you should do more research before say things that are not accurate.

True, the government will react to any internal resistance. However, the situation in Laos has been going on for more than 30 years. The governments should try other options to bring an end to the internal conflict issues.

Using military to chase, hunt, captured, tortured, and killed is not the right strategy. The Lao government should try a peaceful means to bring an end.

I sufferred from the killing strategy.

April of 1978, I was a child with my parents and more than 100 people were atempting to escap to Thailand. The Lao military go after my group, my parents were killed in front of my eyes. My two year old cousin was sliced on his throat, bleed to die. I saw this action while hiding in the bushes.

Is this acceptable to you. Same thing still happens to the people in the hiding.

Choices: Die now or hide till a better opportunity comes.

Your analogy is in the village, not reflect of those in the hiding at all.

Please open mind with good heart to those who are struggle.

Lia Vang

Lia Vang on Jun 10, 2007 at 08:15:21 said:

Dear Amy Par

Response to your June 8 comments:

Thank you for your service to the multi-ethnic groups in Laos. Keep up with your work, they need your help.

However, your comments about resistance in Laos is not correct and I urge you to do more research about the situation in Laos

1. Why resistance has been going on for more than 30 years
2. What are other options that the Lao government should do to end the resistance movement in Laos?

Unfortunately, continue to chase,tortured, and kill by using military strategy will not solve the problem. These action will solve the conflict and on going resistance movement in Laos. It has been going on for more than 30 years, may keep going in the next 100 years. The Lao government has used the military strategy for more than 30 years, it does not work. Chasing, captured, tortured and killing is not the right strategy.

Don't label the Hmong as rebel or resistance. If you were in the woods, some one is chasing and hunt for you. Once you got caught, your life will be in jeopardized. What should you do???? To die now, or hiding till you find a better chance to live.

If you want more real story, I remembered so well when my parents were killed infront of my eyes, people in my group were not insurgents. My two year old cousin was sliced through his throat, let him bleed to die. The soldier use a knife to cut his throat, I see him die slowly, just like slice a live chicken's neck and let it run till its life end.

Is this terrible to you??????

The Lao government should come up with a better way to work on the conflict issues in Laos.

The Lao government should try a peaceful plan to bring an end to the conflict, not military power.

In regard to General Vang Pao arrest and allegations, it would be wrong to take such action. It is a wrong action to save his people by violent strategy, but he migt run of patience because he can not stand watching his people-innocent children and women were chased, captured, tortured, killed every day.

Thank you for your service again

Lia Vang

Sammy on Jun 09, 2007 at 20:51:23 said:

Please have documented evidence about the killings of Hmong women and children. If possible, try to find out of the intent of the Laotion government. Was it really to kill the women and children? Or was it to supress the terrorist like acts that the Hmongs bestow upon the Lao(lowlander) people.

There is no excuse for committing a crime. A person\\\'s past or a person\\\'s belief, or the zealousness of one\\\'s ambition cannot justify the unlawful behavior of Mr. Vang Pao.

Neng on Jun 09, 2007 at 18:22:20 said:

Amy Par, you can not compared Laos to the United States. The last time I check, Laos was and is still a communist country. The people in Laos do not enjoy the freedom we have here. I believe having enjoying the freedom you have here, if it were change into a comminist country over-night you would fight with you own life as well. At least I know I would.

Neng on Jun 09, 2007 at 18:18:21 said:

Amy Par, you can not compared Laos to the United States. The last time I check, Laos was and is still a communist country. The people in Laos do not enjoy the freedom we have here. I believe having enjoying the freedom you have here, if it were change into a comminist country over-night you would fight with you own life as well.

Khammanh on Jun 09, 2007 at 17:45:32 said:

I am not Hmong, but a Lao, and I am very sorry to hear about this. Vang Pao is a great leader, not only of Hmong, but Lao.

It is very disappointing that GEORGE W. BUSH's regime has chosen to squander millions of tax payer dollars to use illegal techniques of entrapment to trick Vang Pao and the other victims into making plans that would be illegal under US law.

But you are right, the commies think this is a great victory for them, but they are mistaken. This will only turn world attention upon the situation in Xaysomboune Special Zone.

The LVA, etc., all Hmong and Lao must mobilize to turn this into apparent defeat into victory.

Kenton Vang on Jun 09, 2007 at 12:53:47 said:

If the world can force the Lao Communist Government to stop killing and torture women, children and treated these people in humane manner, things would be better now. One example: Those 21 teenage girls who were forced back to Laos by Thailand met with rapes and tortures by that government, and things never have been investigated by this Lao Governement or resolves in nothing happen to these children including the 6 boys. Thailand had done good thing to the Hmong communist whom got support from China 32 years ago in the mountains of Thailand, it was a good solution for these communist supporters. Why the Lao Communist learn from Thailand. Thailand called them to come down and give them land to farm and let them live peacefully, and for those whom did not want to come down right away, Thailand dig road to them and give them help with medication, food and other supplies with schools. But the Lao Communist did not do that. Those whom come down are treated as second class of citizens without any help, some ended up in jails and prisons. Women and girls ended up serving the army camps. Those left in the jungle are chasing by militaries, shelling them with guns, bombs, and chemicals and there is no food and other helps ever reached them. Who is to blame? I think the Lao Communist Governement need to change their behavior from this moment.

phayphet vimongkhonh on Jun 09, 2007 at 11:57:23 said:

in respond to the comment posted on june 8,2007 by Lo,his disappointment of hmong people who follows the general to overthrown the government in laos."Laos was not our country" and stated that hmong were just like "illegal immigrants" and "Lao people always hated us" well,I am a laotain american.First of all,history indicated the lao royal and their government has provide a safe haven for all hmong tribes to lived freely and openly cropped the opuim to generated income for many years also many hmong had serve under the royal government as a high ranking official such as the general;touby lefoung etc...in general,an equal oppertunity for all royal subjects were spreading across the kingdom.lao and hmong have been share battle grounds,fighting off the enermies for hunderd of years side by side,for that i give the utmost respect to those who shed thier blood to protect the land of three million elepants so the future generations will have a place to call home! now 30 some years later the situations in laos had changed and effected all of us and we have the oppertunity to better ourself;educated;living in a modern world therefor some of us like "LO"still misjudging and insulting himself.i came to this country as a young man and had some educations from both laos and us,i learned from life experience and move on.i understand how ones situation may be different from others and have everyright to expressed opinions but please understand the facts,history clearly before making any statements. afterall,lao and hmong are come from the same country we just have to accept it and realize we are in the same boat!whether or not we argee with what the general did or done.

Hmongdude on Jun 09, 2007 at 11:20:33 said:

As, a Hmong American man born in the U.S., I am sadden by the killings, torturing and persecution of our brothers and sisters in Communist Laos. However, I feel that the real cause of the General to go back to Laos is little about helping to stop the killings but about the Hmong man seeking control over the individual that was lost when we left Laos.

Let us ask why do the Hmong man long to go back to Laos? It is because he longs for the power to rule over another. His greed and ambition for power is so great that he lacks leadership.

The Hmong man desires self satisfaction with no quench. He hungers for this and has caused brothers against brothers as in ancient China and in modern time such as the Vietnam War. . I have seen first hand of brothers from father or grandfather criticizing and condemning against his brother instead of encouraging the other to better himself.

The Hmong man lacks respect for women’s rights and rejects the knowledge of a non-married man. The Hmong man will eat and drink first before the woman and will try to have as many wives as possible for his own satisfaction. The Hmong man’s sexual appetite for young girls is disgusting and dirty. Have you not seen all those men who go over? He has great desire for control and his greed intensifies.

The Hmong man will follow these actions and say it is our culture that causes us to do this. He says we cannot and must not change it to preserve the past. The Hmong man will never get over this mentality and we will never unless our culture dies and is buried. I call on us (the new generation of Hmong men in American) to let go of our past and create one of righteousness and good.

Jebra Ram Muchahary on Jun 09, 2007 at 09:40:11 said:

Hi Hmong brothers in US. I know this is something very difficult time for you all.THE 4 MILLIONS OF BORO PEOPLE IN INDIA SHARE YOUR GRIEF. But remember there is a saying "WHAT EVER HE DOES HE DOES FOR GOOD". There may be some blessing in disguish. This will help Hmong brothers and sisters of the world to unite and to retrospec the young Hmong brothers and sisters to fill the gap between the old and new generations. It will also generate new leadership to further the Hmong cause. I pray for you this may pave a way to throw light and reawaken your spirit,body, soul and mind to work for extending your support to safe guarding the thousands of Hmongs who are still dying sick, tortured,humaliated and hunted in the Jungle of Laos. I also appeal the world community to lend your ears,yes and conscience to listen,see and react to what is happening with Hmongs in Laos. Let us hope the on going terrible Human Rights violation may come to an end. Remember Hmong brothers and sisters, your justice will be not given, unless you snatch your justice by democratic process. It will be worth mentioning here that General Vang Pao and his co's strategi was wrong and illegal. At the same time we should appreciate his courage and sentimentfor the cause of your peoples suffering in Laos. I found Hmong people are scattered and deeply divided over the Hmong leadership in US. I urge all of you to unite and work together for the betterment of your own people. Remember BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER. It is time for Hmong people to emerge new leadership and new policies for peacefull solution for the sufferings of Hmong brothers and sisters in the jungle of LAOS.
MAY GOD BLESS HMONG INDIGENOUS PEOPLES ALL OVER THE WORLD.

GWJWNTHWNG! JEBRA, BOROLAND, INDIA

Freedom on Jun 09, 2007 at 09:39:04 said:

Vang Pao is a very prominent leader known to almost all Hmong people around the Globe. If Vang Pao is put behind bars, then Hmong will lose their one true leader.

If anyone has any Hmong history or know about the present ongoing genocides of the Hmong back in Laos (yes!, the many persecutions and genocides that the Lao government keeps covering up), then the motive for the men to conspire against the Lao government is very justifiable. They were the ones who actually attempted to do something about the genocides of our race (in Laos).

Hmong are few in numbers, and since we do not have a country, we have no say in the world of politics (power). For this reason, we are insignificant in the eyes of the world governments so when complaint came from Hmong people & leaders about our people being persecuted back in Laos, the American government did not investigate into that matter as soon as the Lao government denied the persecutions. Thus, our people keep dying and they keep getting away with it. They are commiting a serious violation of human rights! and are always getting away. Where is the justice in that?!

Nujtoog Xiong on Jun 09, 2007 at 09:35:20 said:

I Really support General Vang Pao. He is the man that open door our Hmong people came to the USA here now. I belive that he\'s love everysingle hmong every since that I saw him, but now my sadly date I heard I saw in the new June 4. The undercover ATF Agent arrest my hmong godfather make me feel like this tears apart of hmong people life. Its heard every feeling through the younger untill the older. We our hmong never know that the Unite State forgot about our hmong help the American CIA. Today, its time for hmong people tell the Unite State that hmong can\'t be a terris Hmong is friendly share life with American been more 35 yrs. I hope your American not forgot General Vang Pao help the American CIA inside the Ho chi minh trial. The Unite State don\'t break your with General Vang Pao ok.

Young on Jun 09, 2007 at 08:19:34 said:

Answer to Lo on June 8: It seems to me that you never know or hear the terrible things that the Loas govt. had done to the Hmong people in Laos. Please, take a good look at the news and video of killing and torturing of the Hmong people in Laos. I think you will have a second thought. What the 10 men did is right. Be jail here and save people in Laos.

Wang on Jun 09, 2007 at 07:37:54 said:

What a relief. The drug warlord Vang Pao is now in jial. He planned a terrorist attack in Laos to make it like September 11. Think how many innocent people have been saved. OMG

N. T. Xiong on Jun 09, 2007 at 06:16:10 said:

Gen. Vang Pao is just another Hmong but is also a special Hmong who can prove that he is not guilty. The court procedures will last as long as it should and need to be. The procedures will also open his opportunities to tell the world how the Communist government of Laos has done to the Hmong for more than three decades. Yes, the Gen. may have been in jail, but what will come out of his trial, if any, will force many people to put their feet in the Hmong's shoes and to agree with them. Just wait and see.

mai on Jun 09, 2007 at 03:57:23 said:

I am a Hmong Loa girl, my family was left behind in Thailand. I myself don't really care wherever i am. The only hope is I and my family could stay peacefully a being treat as a human being. All my life I’ve heard various suffer that Hmong being treated since Vietnam war and migrated from Laos to Thailand. I lost one sister and a brother during the war. And also lost my uncle’s family, relative and a lot of Hmong folks that run together. It was nightmare for us for years we have to run away from death those communist tried giving us. We have to move from place to place for years after lose Vietnam war. Hmong separate into groups. My father and a few men or the head of each family whose were soldiers of General Vang Pao that work for American. They were people die every day. Death bodies were around, sound of the shooting gun, screaming voice for help from near group and everywhere. The children at my age (under 1 to 3 year)including me were made to sleep and stop crying in order to avoid killing from the chasers. We had to drink opium. I was lucky alive while most of them die because they were given too much of that poison. No food and water, some were die from starvation. We were not much different from people from Ethiopia. A lot of Hmong die during the way to the river. It was a nightmare we could never forget. Moreover, we had a difficult time even reached Mekong river and closing it. We have to use those water plastic gallon help us across the river, and not everyone has it, one for 2 to 3 people. Many were drowned. One of the worst thing is during swimming across the river a lot of Hmong were shot from behind by those communist of Laos, the river become blood. Not just that, when we arrived Thai’s land, Thai soldier take all of our value things like gold, silver and weapon, that we struggled taking them for begin a new life. My parents had million of money from trading before the Vietnam war, had a perfect family and relatives were around but after the Vietnam war we lost every thing. Isn’t it because of helping American? Now, they arrest our leader just for some economic reason with Loas? Or for What?! American has so little responsibility for Hmong. Physical help is not enough! They could never pay what we lost. Think about it.

Mailee Hang on Jun 09, 2007 at 00:53:57 said:

Hi, I'm Hmong girl from Mineapolis. I thought the story would change our parents point of view dreamed and hope that they will better life like when Gen Vang Pao still in power live in the fram time of 1960-1975. that only dream not real thing.the past can not be present again.
However, maybe he thinking too much about young 18 like his old fram times. that why he get the wrong track.

Amy Par on Jun 08, 2007 at 23:48:25 said:

I am an American citizen who has lived in Laos for the past 14 years working on develoment projects, bringing clean water to rural districts all over Laos. Forgive me for saying so, but the only Hmong who are being hunted down and killed in modern Laos are those who are in the resistence movement. As for the hundreds and thousands of other Hmong people in Laos, they are living peacefully in their villages on the mountainsides. I know because I have been to their villages drilling clean water wells. There are Hmong leaders all over Northern Laos in district and provincial governments in positions of authority and power. If a few thousand Hmong continue to resist the current government and arm themselves against it, why is anyone surprised when the Lao government hunts them down? We would do the same in America if a rebel group was planning to undermine our government. I for one am amazed that the American media never reports these obvious and observable facts. Doesn't anyone visit Laos? It's open to tourists daily.

WHITE HMONG... on Jun 08, 2007 at 21:16:39 said:

At least, Gen. Vang Pao can talk the talk and walk the walk. At least, I know that he kept his promise that maybe one day we will have a place called home. Or at least, I hope that this case will touched everyone in the heart...

War victim on Jun 08, 2007 at 20:51:31 said:

The real issue behind all of this tragedy is that Vang Pao has never accepted his defeat and he should tell his people (Hmongs) the war is over. Instead, he and many others have constinously tried all of these years (1975-present)to organize the resistance movement both in Laos and abroad. He kept telling people not to give up the fight no matter how long and how many lives have been lost. Now, the reality has catched up with him and it is the time for him to accept the reality, that he and his mentors (USA) have been defeated fair and square in 1975. He needs to tell the world and his people that it is time to accept this honest defeat.

War Victim.

yang chong cheng on Jun 08, 2007 at 20:24:03 said:

There are many factors involved in this present political situation.
01. There are the Chao Fa who have been continually resisting the PDRL for 30 years.

02. There are those common folk who because they are Hmong they are suspect, they have no real security and no real opportunity to advance their position in life and status in occupation.

03. There are opportunists who are looking to take advantage of every poor and mis-informed person that they can (hence the problem at Huai Nam Khao, Petchaboon).

04. And there is in reality a group of USA Hmong who still maintain and nurture a romantic idea of a Hmong homeland. These men will go to all ends to see their dreams and visions realized.

I am sorry that G. VP has been arrested, Trialogue between PDRL, SPDR of Vn, and the USA should have resolved these issues and problems many years ago. The problems will only be resolved when and if all parties involved will humble themselves before each other, admit to their mistakes, biases, and improper methods of reconciliation. Then and only then will we see peace in PDRL and this will open the way for "Sustainable" development that the country so much needs. I am heart broken that the conflict goes on, 90% of what happens in Laos, VN and China never gets reported on because of State run media. God help us!

Lo. Youa Vang on Jun 08, 2007 at 20:22:49 said:

I was Hmong CIA armed for far in Lao under the general Vang Pao, when I was 12 years old has finght the vietnam war a long side the United States of American. I personally thinks that the weapons of 10 arrested want buy is not to plot to overthrow the Communist govrnment of Lao. Just for the Hmong who have been kill by the Communist of Lao for 30 years to Defence them self from the communist government of Lao who hunt and kill they day and night.

Tub Hmoob on Jun 08, 2007 at 19:44:23 said:

My comment to this issue is that, I would like the international communities to pay more attention and take those Lao Communist Leaders who are killing the Hmong people in Laos today , especially the children and women who had done nothing wrong to the international court. These murders needed to be cut their heads off. The United States is a World leader,it needs to pay attention to this problem,and arrest those Lao communist leaders, murders who have killed women and children first. Those are the first terrorists.

Song. on Jun 08, 2007 at 18:20:56 said:

Hi. Everyone who will read message. Hmong didn't start the war in Laos. Hmong didn't start the secret war Asian. The war in Laos the Laos themselves started that war. Hmong lives in Laos and its Hmong land and country too. Vang Pao didn't start that war and Hmong are not support to be killed by the Communist govn. The war in Laos was not lost, but both sides negotiation and many other countries were withnesses including U.S.A, I want see the original documents that signed at Geneva. To make sure that both sides are govn in Laos. If not who detroyed that agreement. In Laos. Hmong has no history of fighting again Laos govn. Every war in Laos the Laos'govn did. If you don't believe make more reaches. I want to know why the Laos govn blame Vang Pao and Hmong for that war in Laos. "Who started that war". Tell me please.
Remember Vang Pao and the Hmong didn't start that war and shouldn't be blame and killed for the war that started by Laos' GOP. For the Americans people who read this message. I belived we must be friend. I believe not only Hmong fought for you during the war in Asian, but Hmong's children will fight side by side to help you when you are in danger. I believe some Hmong already dies by support our GOP please don't look Hmong as your enemy. Rember more then 30,000 Hmong dies because they took the place of yours brothers, daughters, sons and fathers and they died for them to be alive. Look at Vietnam they didn't take the Americans places. You can see how many Americans died in Vietname. Ousr leaders must understand that communist will never be our friends. Please protect ours lives when we are in dangerous. Can I see a leader stand for the Hmong? Because the Hmong are in crisis situation. {I never thought I will write something like this} I couldn't stand and the situation make me look urgly.I remembered sometimes early in 1969 myself and two other Americans we work together at NanKhan by night time we share guard. They depend on me for they safety if we were attack they believe I will guide them for the safety and THE HMONG depen on your support. MAY GOD BLESS THE HMONG, THE AMERICANS. Good night.

Lo on Jun 08, 2007 at 18:15:56 said:

I am Hmong and I am very disappointed that many of our Hmong people here in the US are dreaming of returning to Laos. What is it to return to? First of all, Laos is not even our country. It has never been. We were illegal immigrants living in the mountain hills of Laos. Lao people have always hated us for invading their land. Just like we are hating Mexicans living here illegally. What Vang Pao did is wrong. We all know that he has been collecting money from Hmong people for the last 30 years with hopes of overthrown the Lao govermment. Enable for us to take over Laos, we would have to kill all Lao people first and there are nearly 4 million of them. Please stop dreaming, we are already living in the dream land.

barcardo on Jun 08, 2007 at 16:08:09 said:

well i dnt know anymore

pahoua lee on Jun 08, 2007 at 15:33:21 said:

Hi. I'm a teenage girl from Stockton California and when I heard about this tragic news it tore my heart apart. I can't believed that the Americans people don't even see when we hmong people help them during the vietnam war. And now their ingorning the past about what happened while our people are the ones who are taking all the losses for their actions. Well, I hope that all of our hmong people will gather together and help each other.

Hmoob Force on Jun 08, 2007 at 14:17:57 said:

i dont really care about vang pao because there is pros and cons about the men but if there was a chance of war, yes i would join the amry because of the my love to my people(hmong), i grow up in america but i would hear stories of how badly we kill and why we are here in the usa.

Lucy Vang on Jun 08, 2007 at 14:08:13 said:

Hey. I am a teenage girl from North Carolina and when I heard about this tragic news... It tore my heart apart. At first, when I just heard about it, I didn't believe it, but I guess its true now. Im glad you guies are writing about this and showing it in a way Americans can't see. I hate how they are ignoring the past about what happened while our people are the ones who are taking all the losses for their actions. Well, I hope Gen. Vang Pao gets out soon...

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